Kevin Schade, carrying an injury, was a second-half sub in Brentford's loss to Liverpool. Keith Andrews said Mathias Jensen's half-time exit, back from injury, was planned, not about form. Sepp van den Berg, first start since surgery, came off after pushing hard with 10 men.
Jannik Schuster and Kevin Schade, both off injured at Villa, have trained on the grass, but Keith Andrews would not commit to either for Brentford v Liverpool on 17 October. He is "fully anticipating" Nathan Collins, Sepp van den Berg and Mikkel Damsgaard being involved.